Clove Technology Cameron Sino Battery Quick Review

July 1st, 2008 by Jon Bradbury

Introduction

Clove Technology, a UK supplier of Eee PCs and accessories, has begun offering a cheap alternative to the (as yet unseen) ASUS extended battery. These are made by the Chinese firm Cameron Sino, and are available in 4-cell 5200mAh and 6600mAh 6-cell variants.

Given the uncertainty over the ASUS UK 900 Eee PC battery upgrade offer, it seemed a good idea to revisit these batteries, and perform some comparative performance tests against the ASUS batteries that come with the 701 and 900 Eee PC variants.

Appearance.

First off, let’s consider the appearance. All the batteries here are suitable for fitting to white Eee PCs. The CS (Cameron Sino) 5200mAh battery has been sprayed with a pearlescent finish that is very close to, but not quite the same colour as, the standard ASUS Pearl White batteries. The difference is quite difficult to capture with a digital camera.

ASUS and CS 5200 mAh batteries

See what I mean? The CS is on the right, but this shot exaggerates the differences somewhat. In practice, you barely notice the difference; it is slightly darker in shade. The CS 6600 mAh battery is a different matter, though, as it is finished in matte white plastic, unpainted, so it is very similar to the finish of the Eee PC 700 (2G) Surf models. Fitted to the 900, it doesn’t really matter that much; all you are missing out on is a bit of pearlescent sheen.

I’ve tried to take a better shot in daylight of all three here (CS 6600mAh on the top, CS5200 bottom left, ASUS 4400 bottom right).

Comparison of colours in sunlight.

The CS batteries are, of course, available for the Galaxy Black Eee PCs, but I’m not able to compare their colour against a black Eee PC as I don’t have one to hand.

Update : eeeuser forum member GrahamK posted some excellent images here.

Physical dimensions and fit

The CS 5200mAh battery, as has been commented on elsewhere, is a little bit tight fitting, because it is marginally bigger in size when compared to the equivalent ASUS battery. No such problems with the larger 6600mAh CS battery, though; it seems to fit much more easily into the Eee PC’s battery slot. However, because it is a six cell battery, the manufacturers have had to make a decision as to where to put the extra two cells, and they have elected to extend the battery backwards.

There it is, sticking out by around 1cm. The other option would have been to mount the extra cells underneath the battery pack, thus raising the back of the machine. What the CS battery does, therefore, is not alter the height of the rear of the keyboard, but in return you are unable to open the screen as far as you would have done had you opted for the other design. This next picture demonstrates how far back you can push the screen, before the CS battery gets in the way.

Weight-wise there’s not much difference between the three 4-cell batteries - they all come in around 200g on my (admittedly not too accurate) kitchen scales. Understandably, the 6-Cell battery weighs an extra 75g.

Performance

Before I state how much battery life each of the batteries on test yielded, I’ll explain my testing method.

All testing was performed with a 20Gb Linux 900 upgraded to 2Gb of memory. The test comprised of fully charging the battery under test, then (from within a shell window) launching a shell script (click on the link to see it - I posted it in the UK battery thread last week) that writes a timestamp and some battery information into a file, then repeatedly touches the file with a 10 second delay. The Linux “touch” command simply updates the “last altered” timestamp on the file. Then, with the wi-fi turned on and associated with an access point, a compressed AVI file was run in the foreground using SM Player on repeat. The machine was then left alone to run down its battery (at which point it would shutdown automatically). The next time the machine was booted, the file was examined and the in-file timestamp compared with the file’s last modified timestamp (using the command “ls -l <file>”) to derive a run time duration for the battery. This was done for the ASUS 4400mAh battery (supplied with the UK 900), the ASUS 5200 mAh battery (supplied with the UK 701), the CS 5200mAh battery and the CS 6600MAh battery.

The results, then:-

  • ASUS 4400mAh : 1 hr 58 minutes
  • ASUS 5200mAh : 2 hrs 34 minutes
  • Cameron Sino 5200mAh : 2hrs 17 minutes
  • Cameron Sino 6600mAh : 4hrs 37 minutes

For some reason the 6600mAh battery is giving much better performance than might otherwise be expected, considering it only has an extra 1400mAh capacity over its smaller sibling. I re-ran the test, thinking that I’d made an error of some sort, and again it yielded 4hrs 39 minutes. Impressive.

Some other things I’ve observed whilst using the 6600 mAh battery:

  • With wi-fi off, and watching uncompressed video stream files from a WD Passport LifeDrive (320Gb) USB powered hard drive, I usually manage 1hr 20 mins before getting the first low power warning with the ASUS 5200 mAh battery. With the CS 6600 mAh battery, I can do this for twice the time and still have 60% battery life.
  • The CS 6600mAh battery will take around 3 hours 45 mins to recharge from flat.
  • Running the standard test without wifi turned on will give you over 5 hours of usage with the 6600mAh battery.

Here’s something else that is interesting. If you divide the rated power of the battery by the number of minutes of life, you get an approximation of the average number of mAh that the life of the battery is reduced by every minute. For all the batteries under test, apart from the CS 6600mAh model, this figure is around 35mAh. The figure for the 6600mAh battery is 23.8, much lower. This is not because the Eee PC is drawing less power from the battery, it is because the battery has more capacity than is stated on its label. Working backwards from a drain of 35mAh / minute for 4 hrs 37 mins (277 minutes) gives you a theoretical capacity of 9695mAh, which is a real surprise.

Please note that I’m not asserting it really does have this capacity. We observe in the test that it is giving uenexpectedly long life, so I’ve used some simple math to try to quantify what that extra capacity might be.

A note about “jump starting”.

Some reviewers have noted that the Cameron Sino batteries suffer from the so called “Jump Starting” problem. This is where you change to a CS battery, but the machine refuses to boot up until you plug it into the mains adapter. Then, on unplugging, the battery continues as normal.

I’m pleased to say that this has not occurred once with these particular batteries.

Prices.

There are many places to get these batteries from, but most of them are overseas eBay sellers. My recommendation would be to leave them and order from a reputable UK source. Thankfully, Clove are offering them at reasonable prices (£29.38 inc. VAT for the 5200mAh variant, and £41.12 inc. VAT for the 6600mAh) and as they have a reputation for top notch after sales service you can buy with confidence.

Conclusion.

I have to recommend the Clove Technology / Cameron Sino 6600mAh battery on performance alone. Sure, it sticks out a little at the back of the machine and interferes with the screen’s normal opening angle, but it lasted much longer than I had any right to expect, and in normal use the extra bulk isn’t such a big deal. That’s why I put my money where my mouth is, and bought one.

So, with this battery, the Eee PC 900 delivers on its promise of portability. Just imagine how much more mileage you’ll get on a 701…

Final note : My thanks to Clove Technology for supplying the two Cameron Sino batteries for testing.


ASUS Perform U-Turn on UK Battery replacement scheme?

June 23rd, 2008 by Jon Bradbury

No UK 5800 battery upgrade for the UKASUS UK are now reportedly telling UK users of the EEEPC 900 who are complaining of the supply of an inferior battery with the machine (see earlier post below) that their much heralded “battery replacement scheme” is on hold “until further notice”. This seems to fly in the face of their earlier press release, which makes a big deal of their wonderful customer service in its rhetoric.

Typical of the responses our UK users are getting from ASUS UK is this one, which eeeuser member loopz posted on the battery discussion thread. loopz says it was received from ASUS customer service in the UK.

Dear Customer,

Like I promised I would give you an update as soon as I got one.
The Exchange for the battery is postponed until further notice.
I am so sorry for this late call but I only heard 2 minutes ago about it.
The minute I know something else I will let you know.

With Kind Regards
Glady’s

It seems to me that, with the competition (for example, the MSI Wind) hot on the heels of the ASUS EEEPC 901, ASUS could have handled the UK battery situation far batter. Potential buyers will surely be asking themselves if this is the sort of after sales service they deserve after forking out their hard earned money on a new UMPC - and they will also no doubt be considering the alternatives.

The ASUS press release quoted by Mobile Computer Magazine’s web page starts off with the bold statement “ ASUS delivers unique customer service“.

UK 900 buyers must be finding the customer service offered by ASUS UK truly “unique” indeed.


Eee PC 901 News Roundup

June 11th, 2008 by ant

Interested in the Eee PC 901? Here’s a roundup of information about it:

What am I most excited about for the Eee PC 901? The battery life!


Checking out Ubuntu Netbook Remix

June 5th, 2008 by brianfay

Ars Technica is running an article about their first hands-on test of parts of the Ubuntu Netbook Remix. “The Remix is based on Ubuntu Mobile Edition and is designed specifically for mobile computers with a subnotebook form factor.” The Remix is also designed with the Atom processor in mind. Could this be your next operating system?


Eee PC™ 901, 1000 and 1000(H) Unveiled at Computex 2008

June 5th, 2008 by OilPainterBill

Asus just did an official press release on the new Atom-based models of the Eee PC. Some of the highlights include Bluetooth, wireless N, and even a “real” 80 GB hard drive in the 1000H model. The prices are $559 for the 901, $629 for the 1000H, and $659 for the 1000 (with 40 GB SSD).


ASUS to offer 5800mAh battery replacement to UK 900 owners

May 30th, 2008 by Jon Bradbury

According to Mobile Computer, ASUS have released a statement regarding the low capacity 4400mAh batteries supplied with the EEE PC 900 model in the UK, which yield a total life of around two hours on a full charge, depending on what the machine is doing.

Effectively, ASUS are to provide an upgrade path. This follows a concerted effort by eeeuser.com forum members, led by user shade360, to lobby ASUS for a battery replacement. The downside is that there is a nominal cost involved (£10 + VAT) and the original 4400 mAh battery has to be returned, but at least UK 900 owners can now opt to enjoy the full 900 experience, as the replacement batteries will be the proper 5800mAh rated items.

According to the press release, “ASUS will release information regarding the detailed procedure in a few days and anticipate the battery purchase service commencing from 10th June 2008.”

Read the full discussion on our forum here.


ASUS Stops Taking Orders For Eee PC 900

May 29th, 2008 by ant

DigiTimes is reporting that ASUS has essentially paused the recently launched Eee PC 900 in anticipation for the launch of the Eee PC 901:

The Eee PC 900 was unveiled for the Asia Pacific market during late April and for the US market on May 12. But Asustek is said to have stopped taking any more Eee PC 900 orders as the Eee PC 901 is set to launch on June 3, the sources said.

It’s not really specified whether or not production will resume or if the device will be discontinued.

What will happen to users who are still on a backorder list for the device? What about the battery situation? It appears as though the 900 was simply a 1-2 month transitional device in the eyes of ASUS. What do you think about this?

[edit: originally stated discontinued, but perhaps it's just a pause in production]


Pics of the EBox (Eee PC)

May 27th, 2008 by brianfay

Though not much is known about it yet, pictures have emerged of the EBox, the desktop variant of the Eee PC. The Register, The Inquirer, and Slashdot all have similar pieces about it. The box is said to include 2GB of RAM, 160GB Hard Drive, and the Xandros OS that Eee users are already familiar with. Pricing is suggested at $200-$300 (US), but that may likely change.


White and Black Eee PC 901, June 3 launch, $650

May 21st, 2008 by ant

This past week, pictures and information have come out about the white and black Eee PC 901– the Intel Atom based Eee PC.

Blogeee.net has numerous photos of the white 901:

The photos also show that the 901 is not branded as an ASUS, but rather as an “Eee.” This appears to confirm earlier talk of ASUS spinning off the Eee brand.

Blogeee.net also has photos of the 901 in black:

Digitimes also has more information on the 901. The specifications will be almost the same as the Eee PC 900, but it will feature bluetooth, metallic parts, a slightly different design, and of course the Intel Atom processor. While this sounds great, the price is going to come in at a whopping $650– far away from the intended price of the original Eee PC. With that said, it does have many more features than the original. It will be launched June 3 (though the article doesn’t say it, it’s probably going to be at Computex 2008 in Taiwan.)


Order the Eee PC 900 20G and 12G at Amazon

May 11th, 2008 by ant

[edit] The Eee PC 900 has been released! Many online retailers are carrying it, although selling out stock quickly.

While other parts of the world already can get their hands on Eee PC 900 devices, it has not yet been introduced to the US market. Now, it looks like it is getting closer to a release: Amazon.com has both Eee PC 900 versions listed for pre-order through themselves (and not a 3rd party retailer): the 20G model that comes with Linux and the 12G model that comes with Windows XP can both be found on the website. Of course, they feature the new 8.9″ screen with a resolution of 1024×600.

[thanks jqw3]