Comments on: Eee PC Future Goals, Making the Device Better http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/ The Eee PC Community Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:18:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: joey http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-45207 joey Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:16:36 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-45207 NEEDS TOUCHSCREEN , needs to be turned into a tablet PC! NEEDS TOUCHSCREEN , needs to be turned into a tablet PC!

]]> By: Snappy! http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-41493 Snappy! Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:27:52 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-41493 I think Asus did a good job with the eeepc. It should stay the course and remain focused with the product line that the eeepc is meant for - umpc with instanton, use everywhere functionalities that is easy, etc etc. A larger screen 8~9" can still fit in the current form-factor-size. The speaker can probably fit on the lower part of the screen. If the webcam can be swivel type, it would be a bonus! Instead of having a larger built-in ssd that is not user-replaceable, why not fix it at 4gb to just install the base OS and have two SDHC slots or 1 SDHC and 1 CF slot for user programs and data. That should give eeepc devices more flexibility and still keep the cost down. WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE EEEPC The one thing I like about the eeepc is the unionfs thingie that keeps the base os safe while the user programs and data are separate. This allows the user to restore to factory default settings in just a few seconds than the typical windows (or linux for that matter) reinstall that takes mins or hours! Improve on the InstantOn feature and battery life. This would make the eeepc really attractive. 1. 8~9" screen in existing formfactor 2. Better InstantOn feature 3. Better battery life 4. a) 2 x SDHC slot or b) 1 x SDHC slot + 1 CF slot I think Asus did a good job with the eeepc. It should stay the course and remain focused with the product line that the eeepc is meant for – umpc with instanton, use everywhere functionalities that is easy, etc etc.

A larger screen 8~9″ can still fit in the current form-factor-size. The speaker can probably fit on the lower part of the screen. If the webcam can be swivel type, it would be a bonus!

Instead of having a larger built-in ssd that is not user-replaceable, why not fix it at 4gb to just install the base OS and have two SDHC slots or 1 SDHC and 1 CF slot for user programs and data. That should give eeepc devices more flexibility and still keep the cost down.

WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE EEEPC

The one thing I like about the eeepc is the unionfs thingie that keeps the base os safe while the user programs and data are separate. This allows the user to restore to factory default settings in just a few seconds than the typical windows (or linux for that matter) reinstall that takes mins or hours!

Improve on the InstantOn feature and battery life. This would make the eeepc really attractive.

1. 8~9″ screen in existing formfactor
2. Better InstantOn feature
3. Better battery life
4. a) 2 x SDHC slot or b) 1 x SDHC slot + 1 CF slot

]]> By: the_eternal_dark http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-41035 the_eternal_dark Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:04:10 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-41035 The only requests I have for the next gen eeepc is supply a higher resolution screen (maybe 8+ inches) and a better 3d supporting graphics chip. The only requests I have for the next gen eeepc is supply a higher resolution screen (maybe 8+ inches) and a better 3d supporting graphics chip.

]]> By: mookiemu http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-40889 mookiemu Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:13:26 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-40889 I don't need the speakers, I'm happy to use headphones. But I do need a bigger screen. Take out the speakers or put them next to the mousepad and and make the screen the full size of the lid and give it a 1024x768 resolution. Get rid of the clicker and give me a real 2 button (plus "press both keys for middle mouse"). Put in a merom pentium M proc and get rid of the fan. And give us a bios that supports the full processor clock speed. Make the mouse pad multitouch so you can use two fingers to scroll. More battery life would be a plus. Do these things for under $500 and you will have a machine that is untouchable. I added an internal 16gig thumbdrive, I keep another 16gig sd card in the slot, and I upgraded too 2gig of ram and now I have a nearly perfec umpc. If the above suggestions were to be implemented, I would be so happy I would do a backflip! I don’t need the speakers, I’m happy to use headphones. But I do need a bigger screen. Take out the speakers or put them next to the mousepad and and make the screen the full size of the lid and give it a 1024×768 resolution.
Get rid of the clicker and give me a real 2 button (plus “press both keys for middle mouse”).
Put in a merom pentium M proc and get rid of the fan. And give us a bios that supports the full processor clock speed.
Make the mouse pad multitouch so you can use two fingers to scroll.
More battery life would be a plus.
Do these things for under $500 and you will have a machine that is untouchable.

I added an internal 16gig thumbdrive, I keep another 16gig sd card in the slot, and I upgraded too 2gig of ram and now I have a nearly perfec umpc. If the above suggestions were to be implemented, I would be so happy I would do a backflip!

]]> By: oldhand http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-40879 oldhand Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:38:04 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-40879 Here are what I consider simple facts and anyone can dispute them if they see fit since that what these forums are all about. The screen is 7 inches because it uses a lower power LED backlight and since these displays are new ASUS probably had problems with supply, cost, or the manufacturing processes. Increasing the resolution also increases the the manufacturing cost for these new screens because they require improved manufacturing processes. The underclocked CPU and battery life issues were the result of having no decent low power system platform for this kind of device at the time. Even at 600 MHz, the Eee PC runs warmer than I would like. Can you imagine how hot it would get at 900MHz. ASUS wanted to grab a large share of the market for these kinds of device so they released the current series of Eee PCs with the technology that was available. Anyway, we all know how they have captured a large part of this market. All early adopters of new products usually have some regrets. Ask any iphone user. It's the price you pay to have the latest and greatest. In the next year, look for new UMPCs from VIA, Gigabyte, MSI, and ASUS that incorporate most of what is on our wish list. Menlow CPU and system platform from Intel (no fan, less heat, same or better processing power, better battery life) Larger LED backlit screens with better resolutions (slightly increased power consumption but increased usability especially for web browsing) Larger Solid State Disk drives (prices for storage alway come down with widespread adoption and improved manufacturing techniques) WIMAX (affordable and reliable wireless internet which unfortunately might increase unit cost and reduce battery life) My two cents, Oldhand Here are what I consider simple facts and anyone can dispute them if they see fit since that what these forums are all about.

The screen is 7 inches because it uses a lower power LED backlight and since these displays are new ASUS probably had problems with supply, cost, or the manufacturing processes. Increasing the resolution also increases the the manufacturing cost for these new screens because they require improved manufacturing processes.

The underclocked CPU and battery life issues were the result of having no decent low power system platform for this kind of device at the time. Even at 600 MHz, the Eee PC runs warmer than I would like. Can you imagine how hot it would get at 900MHz. ASUS wanted to grab a large share of the market for these kinds of device so they released the current series of Eee PCs with the technology that was available. Anyway, we all know how they have captured a large part of this market.

All early adopters of new products usually have some regrets. Ask any iphone user. It’s the price you pay to have the latest and greatest.

In the next year, look for new UMPCs from VIA, Gigabyte, MSI, and ASUS that incorporate most of what is on our wish list.

Menlow CPU and system platform from Intel (no fan, less heat, same or better processing power, better battery life)

Larger LED backlit screens with better resolutions (slightly increased power consumption but increased usability especially for web browsing)

Larger Solid State Disk drives (prices for storage alway come down with widespread adoption and improved manufacturing techniques)

WIMAX (affordable and reliable wireless internet which unfortunately might increase unit cost and reduce battery life)

My two cents,
Oldhand

]]> By: Nick http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-40631 Nick Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:58:31 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-40631 Resolution must reach 600 vertical! 8-9" screen would look a lot better in that huge bezel. The current machine is too hot and too loud! Keep it cool! A low-wattage chipset and a stainless steel backplate would kick ass! The fan in mine was so annoying that I had to sell it. 4GB is quite adequate, if 8GB is cheap enough, go there but I would rather have a faster 4. More GB = more sales though. Allowing owners to upgrade the flash makes the most sense since the prices drop so fast. Put a second SDHC slot inside for "HD upgrade" Resolution must reach 600 vertical!

8-9″ screen would look a lot better in that huge bezel.

The current machine is too hot and too loud! Keep it cool!

A low-wattage chipset and a stainless steel backplate would kick ass! The fan in mine was so annoying that I had to sell it.

4GB is quite adequate, if 8GB is cheap enough, go there but I would rather have a faster 4. More GB = more sales though.

Allowing owners to upgrade the flash makes the most sense since the prices drop so fast. Put a second SDHC slot inside for “HD upgrade”

]]> By: calguy1000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-40623 calguy1000 Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:08:02 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-40623 I also think you're missing the point about the Eee PC. I really like the form factor, and am not too worried about the disk space, screen size or keyboard. (I'll be getting my Eee PC this week). I expect to use the PC as a dumb-terminal most of the time, connecting in via ssh and vpn to remote machines to do minor things (edit php files, remotely administer some linux boxes), also send short emails, read emails, check out a website... maybe make skype calls, and do it from a coffee shop. If I need to do any real work with the machine, then I expect I'll pull out a usb or bluetooth keyboard and hook up an external monitor... and then still I wouldn't store much 'real data' on the Eee PC.. If I'm on the road I think one of those rollable bluetooth keyboards would be a great idea. To me, the Eee PC is a great replacement for a palm.... trying to read email or surf websites on my lifedrive is a pain.... this will be a great solution to that. But it is not a great solution for a professional workstation.... if I wanted that I'd use my 17" notebook. I also think you’re missing the point about the Eee PC. I really like the form factor, and am not too worried about the disk space, screen size or keyboard. (I’ll be getting my Eee PC this week).

I expect to use the PC as a dumb-terminal most of the time, connecting in via ssh and vpn to remote machines to do minor things (edit php files, remotely administer some linux boxes), also send short emails, read emails, check out a website… maybe make skype calls, and do it from a coffee shop.

If I need to do any real work with the machine, then I expect I’ll pull out a usb or bluetooth keyboard and hook up an external monitor… and then still I wouldn’t store much ‘real data’ on the Eee PC.. If I’m on the road I think one of those rollable bluetooth keyboards would be a great idea.

To me, the Eee PC is a great replacement for a palm…. trying to read email or surf websites on my lifedrive is a pain…. this will be a great solution to that. But it is not a great solution for a professional workstation…. if I wanted that I’d use my 17″ notebook.

]]> By: Joe http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-40525 Joe Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:01:47 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-40525 How about running the FSB and the CPU at full speed!?! That should certainly be a top concern! The CPU is fully paid for but it is not running at its designed 900 MHz, what a waste! I sure hope Asustek are working on that. Probably they are quiet about it because they don't want to attract attention to the current embarassing underclocking. How about running the FSB and the CPU at full speed!?! That should certainly be a top concern! The CPU is fully paid for but it is not running at its designed 900 MHz, what a waste!

I sure hope Asustek are working on that. Probably they are quiet about it because they don’t want to attract attention to the current embarassing underclocking.

]]> By: Ronald Pottol http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-40362 Ronald Pottol Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:04:50 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-40362 I'm with the 1024x600 screen people. I had a Toshiba Libretto 50ct for years, and loved it. But it was only 640x480, and 480 is just too damn short. And I would really like a second SDCard slot. I’m with the 1024×600 screen people. I had a Toshiba Libretto 50ct for years, and loved it. But it was only 640×480, and 480 is just too damn short. And I would really like a second SDCard slot.

]]> By: waste http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/comment-page-1/#comment-40243 waste Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:05:21 +0000 http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/31/eee-pc-future-goals-making-the-device-better/#comment-40243 what many of you really miss whining about the eee , is the fact that there is no competition. Its like the Ford T model. Sure you want this and that and the other. And sure you wont buy if the screen is that resolution, or this big. But who cares really about what would you buy with your big IFs?? Currently there is no other sub notebook (1kgr) in the market in this price range. You want big screens, better keyboard, more ram more storage? Go buy a Portege or a Sony with 2500euros or get a life. You want something cheap. Buy eee or buy nothing. Im fed up with all this whining. what many of you really miss whining about the eee , is the fact that there is no competition. Its like the Ford T model. Sure you want this and that and the other. And sure you wont buy if the screen is that resolution, or this big. But who cares really about what would you buy with your big IFs??

Currently there is no other sub notebook (1kgr) in the market in this price range. You want big screens, better keyboard, more ram more storage? Go buy a Portege or a Sony with 2500euros or get a life. You want something cheap. Buy eee or buy nothing. Im fed up with all this whining.

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